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Cohanzie School’s Historical Hang-Up

Labeling Cohanzie School a historical building might mean a longer delay to developing the spot, when the neighbors are hoping for action soon.

Wednesday, the Connecticut Department of Economic and Community Development held a hearing in Town Hall on Cohanzie School, saying they were willing to work with the town to save the historic building and balance the “economic needs” with the “preservation needs.”

Yet the reaction was quite the opposite. The majority of the audience, which was composed mostly of people who live in the neighborhood, said they didn’t have strong feelings if the building was knocked down or not. Instead, they were worried what was going to be built there, and hoped something would happen soon.

“To be honest with you, it would probably be better if it did get knocked down,” said Phil Fowler, who lives on Dayton Road, next to the school. “But if someone comes in there and says I have a perfectly good use and I can adapt this building, I’m all for it. But I haven’t seen anyone step up to the plate yet.”

In June, Waterford Town Historian Bob Nye asked for and had Cohanzie School put on the state’s historic register. With that designation, the state now considers knocking the building down – its original plan - a “significant impact on the environment,” and is more likely to try to find someone to save the building, according to Dan Forrest of the Connecticut Historic Preservation Office.

Forrest said he would work with the town to try to save the building, suggesting he was doing it in the interest of the neighborhood. Yet several people in the neighborhood showed up at the meeting, and said while keeping it would be nice, the real concern is what the building is going to be turned into.

“To me, it doesn’t matter,” said Dave Chapman, who lives near Cohanzie School. “If it could be saved, and done up, yea… But I’m more worried about what’s going to be there.”

The DECD will take comment from the public about what should be done with the building until October 4. Then, the state will reveal its plans within a month, including if it will knock the building down or try to save it, according to DECD officials.

The Story

Cohanzie School, which sits at 40 Dayton Road, has been vacant since 2008, after the town went from five elementary schools to three. Waterford secured a $457,000 grant from the DECD in March to knock down the building and remediate the land.

But in June, Nye had the building put on the state’s historical register. The school was built in 1923, and has historical significance, Nye said. Also, by putting it on the state register, it allows developers to qualify for tax breaks if they keep the building, he said.

“My point in doing that was so the developer could use the tax credits,” Nye said. “That would make the project doable.”

But with that designation, the state now considers knocking the building down a “significant environmental impact” to the neighborhood, and is reluctant to knock the building down, Forrest said. Instead, the state would make more of an effort to have the building be reused, theoretically to back the will of the people.

Yet when Patch interviewed the people in the neighborhood, their concerns were about what was being built there. They said it would be nice if the building could be reused, but really what they wanted was for something to be done and done quickly.

“We’d like to get it moving now,” said Dave DeNoia, who lives at 39 Dayton Road.

What They Want

The neighbors all agreed that they did not want another retail outlet at the spot, as the area is already surrounded by retail outlets like the Crystal Mall, route: {:controller=>"listings", :action=>"show", :id=>"crystal-mall"} --> and

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Richard Waselik May 19, 2013 at 05:57 am
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Daniella Ruiz May 19, 2013 at 05:44 am
another 'not for profit' that suckles away at the very core of peoples generosity?? better toRead More 'retire' the banking/WS thieves that casually gore the system with relentless greed, schemes and secrecy.
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Kate May 19, 2013 at 02:05 pm
Oh, and please spread the word, and bring a friend to the meeting! :)
Kate May 19, 2013 at 02:03 pm
Hi Naty! That would be so great! The next RTM meeting in Waterford is on June 3rd, at 7:00 p.m.Read More The more people who show up and tell the town we want Cohanzie School to be repurposed, the better! This is politics, after all, and it is the residents showing up and telling the town this is a building we care about, this is a property we want access too. Imagine at least the 1923 section being repurposed into some department that would benefit the town. The town will demolish Cohanzie, sell the land and the bricks, and turn around in a year or two and say "We need more space! Let's build a new building!". Why should we do that when Cohanzie School is there, it can be repurposed, and it is so important for our town's history and the Cohanzie community? What if there was a park area where the basketball courts are, a path to walk around the building and down a part of the hill. Sledding could still happen, ball playing or other activities on the lower level. This retains the historic building, the architecture, the Cohanzie name, the community "presence", the hill, the ball field. It can be a place to go and relax. Even a dog park can be built on part of it! There is nothing like that in that section of town. Leary Field is remote and isolated. It is a ball field. With Cohanzie Firehouse and Lisa Dedrick Field right there, you feel the presence of community, without being isolated or unable to grab a quiet moment or more. Come on Waterford. This building and grounds belongs to us. Let's reclaim it before it is demolished and the bricks sold. Don't believe it cannot be repurposed. Asbestos, oil tanks, and other environmental factors are ALWAYS present in old schools, so the experts have told me. Old schools are repurposed all the time. It is a matter of convincing the town officials that this is what we WANT. Please speak up! Please SHOW UP, at the RTM meeting on June 3rd, at the Town Hall at 7:00 p.m. They are waiting to see what kind of turnout we get. Ignoring one resident or twenty is easy. Ignoring 100 or 500 is hard. We can do this, if you HELP.
Naty Bush May 18, 2013 at 11:44 am
Where will the meeting take place? I might be able to go to say why it shouldn't be demolished.
Liz May 12, 2013 at 09:06 pm
Mr. Steiner wants to build 72 three story homes on 32 acres in addition to the 60 condos in the twoRead More large buildings. That is more than two individual units per acre or if you include the 60 condos - that is MORE than 4 units per acre! The area around the property for new building is zoned 3 acres per unit. The average of currently built housing abutting the property is about one acre per unit. That is not in keeping with the neighborhood character.
Daniella Ruiz May 12, 2013 at 05:36 pm
Mr Steiner may be the last hope for this decrepit place. The neighbors need to move along, or buyRead More the place themselves. Change might help the stonewalling attitude that has become evident in nearly the entire town, revolving around exclusive entitled old farts with nothing better to do than remember their glory days of Seaside. Its gone, & it's not going to revert back to a pasture either. (too many complaints about that cow smell and so forth). My advice is to listen carefully and try to work something out, get over your own selfish grandious dreams of Pelham Manor style estates and do SOMETHING before it simply falls apart like Norwich Hospital, the countless thread/manufacturing mills, and every other historic building that has been left to rot.
Daniella Ruiz May 14, 2013 at 08:53 am
mary m>> common sense? heee hee. in this day and age? lawyers have made every attempt toRead More eradicate that concept from our every life activity. write it into some law, that can be thence used as future gurantee of use of, by and for their own existence? it's like job security for that entire group, keep the general public at a disadvantage, unable to apply common sense (whats left of it they havent entombed in laws) and uneasy about acting on their own. John Y has the right attitude, heave the cra.pp on the peoples lawn, and hope it doesn't lay there for days as well!
John Yannacci, Sr. May 13, 2013 at 10:09 am
Mary May, I don't know the legality of posting signs on telephone poles. But, take a ride aroundRead More Waterford on Saturday mornings and you'll see signs on anything that is verticle. Take a ride around the same neighborhoods on Wednesday and half the signs will still be there. I wonder if the folks who have had the same yard sale sign at the corner of Great Neck and Rope Ferry Rds. for two and a half weeks wonder why cars are still stopping at their house every Saturday morning.
Mary May May 13, 2013 at 09:53 am
Um I believe it is ILLEGAl to post ANY sign on a telephone pole ANYWAY but free standing signsRead More should be removed after sale is over ! Really a state law just COMMON SENSE we have lost along the way !