Daily Five: Veterans Day Closures

Five things to know for Monday, Nov. 12, 2012

1. Today should be mostly sunny, with a high around 64, according to the National Weather Service. Tonight there is a chance of showers, with a low around 50, according to the service.

2. It is a day late, but happy Veterans Day. Thank you for all who have served. In recognition of the holiday, there is no school today and all non-essential government offices are closed, including Waterford Town Hall.

3. The pot for a new animal shelter continues to grow and grow. According to the minutes from the November 5th meeting of the Animal Control Facility Study Ad Hoc Committee, the group has raised $92,034.95 as of the end of September. That doesn’t include all the fundraising since, which includes tickets for an upcoming comedy show on November 16th.

4. Santa Claus will be at the Crystal Mall starting Tuesday, and will stay until Christmas Eve. There is an upcoming day for people to take their pets to get a picture with Santa, which we will have a date for soon.

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5. On this date in 1997, Ramzi Yousef was found guilty of masterminding the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. And on this date in 1979, in the middle of the Iran hostage crisis where Iranians held 52 Americans hostage in the American Embassy in Tehran, President Jimmy Carter orders a halt on all petroleum into the Untied States from Iran.

Quote of the Day

“Advertising is the greatest art form of the 20th century.”

-Marshall McLuhan

Trivia of the Day

What was the legendary supercontinent that started the earth called?

Friday’s Answer: Joe Lieberman was proceeded by Republican Lowell Weicker in the Senate. 

BJ November 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM
"In recognition of [Veteran's Day]... all non-essential government offices are closed, including Waterford Town Hall." If we define a government office as "non-essential" for a holiday, then why are we subject to its whims the rest of the year? Are we the taxpayers free from the stifling regulations of the non-essential offices today? Are we the taxpayers free from covering the outrageous expenses of the non-essential offices today? This is a perfect example of government waste, we the people pay people to NOT work, yet we are still under their thumb and MUST follow every regulation. If they are "non-essential" today, then they are NON-ESSENTIAL EVERYDAY! Work or get out of the way.
Dan November 12, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Here we go again...
Harold Hansen November 13, 2012 at 01:23 AM
BJ, Your lack of logic is amazing. Why don't we just say that this is a Federal Holiday. Some people still have to work. Your diatribe makes no sense. I thought I'd never say this to anyone. Why don't you go somewhere else and not bother us with your mindless prattle. If you work less than seven days a week, then apply your silly logic to yourself.
BJ November 13, 2012 at 02:46 AM
HH: I am sorry that you are unable to follow the simplest logic. I am not sue why you feel the need to attack me personally because you are unable to see my point.
Harold Hansen November 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM
BJ, Let me explain. I understand your argument exactly.Go back to 1995, I think, when the federal govt closed down. Senator Dole said that if the govt could operate with all the the civil servants on hiatus, then they may not be necessary. My next question was if the country could operate when congress was not in session... Three days later when everything came to a screeching halt because of no clerical/office staff, he was proven very wrong. Almost every enterprise can operate for a short time on short help, but it all catches up. And don't attack me with an accusation about my mental ability. I truly understant your faulty logic. I still have the question - do you go to work seven days a week and never take a day off?
Harold Hansen November 13, 2012 at 12:40 PM
BJ, "Non-Essential" is an unfortunate misleading term. The "essential" people are those needed for health safety law and order. The simple explanation is after a snow storm, people that work at an enterprise {"non-essential") are asked to come in a few hours late so the parking lots can be cleared by the facilities ("essential")people. i think that is fairly simple logic. Does that mean that these people are not needed for the enterprise to succeed? i think not.
BJ November 13, 2012 at 05:13 PM
HH: Thanks for the clarification, but you are still missing my bigger point. We have clashed before, and I am not sure we will ever see the same situation in the same way. You are correct about my capitalizing on the "unfortunate misleading term:" non-essential. However, I am taking a much broader view of the "need" for the offices that currently exist. If you see the government (as it looks today) as "needed, or value added" then you and I will never reach an understanding. I see that the government has grown to a point where it exists solely to perpetuate itself. Americans are no longer free... the government taxes and regulates EVERY aspect of our lives. Do you think that is OK? Do you even think that is true? I am not sure why you care about my work schedule, but to answer your question... YES I "go to work everyday." I do WHATEVER it takes to keep my customers 100% satisfied. But even if that was not the case, an "enterprise" can be staffed without the need for any one employee being available 24/7.
Harold Hansen November 13, 2012 at 05:54 PM
BJ, You made my point in your last sentence. Almost everyone takes some time off, whether for vacation, national holiday or whatever. For a short time, arrangements can be made make up for the person's absence. After that the position needs to be manned full time again. My question to you was do you take any time off like a vacation? I agree that the size of government, or a lot of other things for that matter, should be based on need. People disagree on what is necessary. You think less government is necessary than I do. I think your view borders on not having any government at all would be best. What parts of government would you tolerate? Maybe we can find something we agree on.
BJ November 13, 2012 at 07:26 PM
HH: I understand your point (a normal/expected/standard practice, I have no argument with it, most people need it). Why the obsession with what I do? No, I do not take "vacations" from my job (this is a choice I prefer, not a recommendation). I'm not opposed to a government. What I'm opposed to is a government that controls "the people." A government that elevates having rules over people above the rights of its citizens. A government that enacts taxes to control the people. I am a Constitutionalist. Starting with the federal government... I believe that America would be best served if the federal government did two basic things: One, protect our boarders; Two, mediate disputes between states and other countries. Have you studied the Federalist Papers? Do you understand the principles that lead to our Constitution? Have you studied the history prior to the Revolution (and between the revolution and the Constitution)? At the time it was a very liberal idea to give the US federal government even that much power (The two mandates I mentioned previously), yet look at us now. How do you even stop the "progressive" movement; let alone start rolling the boulder back up the hill? The states lost all sovereignty after the Civil War. And they take their far overreaching cues from the bloated federal government. Same with the local government. The schools no longer teach history, as it happened, they only teach what furthers their agenda (more government, more control).


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